That’s all I’ve got. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. Retweets. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 159. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. Likes. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. Huge mistake. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. ”Log in. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Replying to @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. BC, Wake, Cuse. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. 11. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. ” March 7th. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. ”See new Tweets. Jul 12. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Quote Tweets. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. 4. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Quote Tweets. Could also mean ND is rethinking. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. That’s all I’ve got. Ed. It was $24. I don’t think that’s an option for us. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. This will be my last tweet for a bit. AZ has and AZSU problem. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. @MHver3. I don’t hate the PAC. Boise is not completely off the table in football. 2. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. The PAC show of unity tweet…. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. Likes. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Quote Tweets. 8 of them are. MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We don’t have the endowment they have. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. No one has control. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. . OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. That’s it. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. ”MHver3 @MHver3. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. OMG I was wrong. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . ”Notre Dame is not a factor. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. There’s a catch. In person. Log in. We currently get about $4m for that same content. 1. Up to 75% would be streaming. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. 23. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Baylor is too. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. We currently get about $4m for that same content. @MHver3. March 7th. Likes. 2. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. Corey Wishnia. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. 3. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. This happened sometime in the past few days. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. @MHver3. 5% each. 5% each. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 251. I don’t normally delete anything. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. ESPN pro-rata is a given. @MHver3. Log in. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. ”Log in. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. Replying to @MHver3. 82. 1 — and for No. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. I actually don’t want more western schools. ”GK about to get shipped to China. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. @KStateKyle. 7. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. ALT. Also the FB CCG. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. @xtmountain. Sign up“Called my source. 9. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 6. Might even see a Huskie or two. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. GIF. 4. Likes. Sign up. Huskies have come back to the table. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. MHver3 @MHver3. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. . “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. 2. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. @MHver3. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. 6. Retweets. @MHver3. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. I’ve even called it that myself. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. It did ok. ”@MHver3 · May 25. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. 1. AZ too. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. 19. 2. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Amazon gets more first choice. Replying to @MHver3. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. 3. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. 2. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. Look for a thread soon. ”Log in. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. 2. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. Retweets. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). FSU is the most attractive maybe. Staples: The realignment battle for No. They are looking at 1. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. But simply never happens. I actually don’t want more western schools. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @CFBKnights. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. MHver3 @MHver3. and @TheAPBerry. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. and. 1 — and for No. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Got a PAC update. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Factions have formed. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. Retweets. 5m. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. Things have escalated. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. 13. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. 2. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Bradley Berry M. Likes. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. Yormark has a vision. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. At least for the next 6-8 years. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. 3 — is made for TV. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Replying to. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Quote. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1. Log in. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. 2. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year.